In the devil's cave
from www.exbaba.nl

 

From: kim_dk@sol.dk

To: ex-baba@hetnet.nl

Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 4:51 PM

Subject: In the devil's cave

Dear people

I hereby send you information about my experience with Sai Baba. Please use it and publish it as much you can. You are always welcome to contact me  for further information or assistance.

May God protect us all.

My name is Kim, I am a 34 years old male who has just survived a 11 weeks trip to Sai Baba. Sai Baba is teaching us that all religion is welcome and  that he is God himself. I am a 100% Christian and an eternal servant of Mother Mary and I have always wondered how Sai Baba could say that he is God and not just a servant of God. But since I had some serious problems in my life I took the chance (!) and went to Sai Baba for the first time 4 years ago as I was hoping that he would help a true servant of God such as me. I had so many troubles at my first trip, but saw it as a possibility to become more humble towards God ! My next trip last year was easier as I got more deeply into his teachings, but still I couldn't get an interview.

Then finally this year I created a whole theory about how he was the messiah and the creator of it all as described by Isaiah. In my mind I was on the brink of surrendering to him as I could see that my prayers to him had helped me out of several troubles. Then I finally got an interview during which he "made" a watch for me (while I was looking the other way). I then got into the inner interview room where he told me that sometimes I have very very bad thoughts. I told him that it was certainly because of the darkness in me. He said that he would remove everything, and he then told me to take down my pants and then he massaged my lower stomach with oil. I couldn't help wondering that the atmosphere was more one of desire than of the divine.

Notice how he always talks about his desires for... ! I then got out of the inner interview room and after talking to some other devotees he told me to come into the inner room again. Then I was told to kiss his feet, but I couldn't really surrender to him as I really didn't feel anything divine. Then as he was standing up he told me to put my head to his hip;  he then gave me a massage on my back as he told me to forget everything and just let everything go (to him). I still couldn't surrender. He then gave up. I had some question about the divine Mother Mary, so I said what about Mother Mary. He just said: I will find a good girl for you. Then I said that I just want to serve God. He looked at me as if I was a hopeless case and then the interview was over.

I would like everyone to notice that even though he is saying that all religions are welcome, then the bottom line is that he only wants to "help" you if you surrender to him only. He never does anything in the name of Christ or God. I will therefore tell you all how we can overcome this very black magician:

There is no force greater than God and Jesus Christ, and if you say to yourself that your soul belongs only to God and Christ, and that you will give anything to him, then all the links that Sai Baba and other black forces have made in you will be given to a force that not even the devil himself can overcome. Then Sai Baba and the others will lose, and this earth will come closer to real peace, love, and happiness.  May the Almighty God protect you all.

Kim

You can use this statement as you like and publish this widely. I swear in the name of God that I'm telling the truth. English is not my native language, so please correct any spelling and grammatical mistakes as long as you stick to the true meaning. 

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COMMENT ON THE LATEST ACCOUNT OF SB'S ADVANCES TO SURFACE

 

Date: 10-23-02

By: Robert Priddy

From: rpriddy@online.no

Website: http://home.no.net/anir/Sai/

 

 

The young Dane, Kim, posted his account of his private interviews with SB yesterday (22-10-2002) under the rather pointed title: "In the Devil's Cave". There is no reason to cast any doubt on any part of his credible description, for it is in accordance with many previous such accounts, while of course taking place in somewhat different personal circumstances to those of other victims of SB's sexual advances. This oiling and the atmosphere of desire by SB experienced with it by Kim, plus the subsequent actions by SB (holding his head against his hip and asking Kim to "let everything go, to him") are not uncommon, to say the least! The whole episode, though it did not become fully sexual, is extremely suspicious because it reminds of known and documented methods of the gradual and subtly ambiguous approaches of sexual seducers worldwide. They also accord with the reports of such techniques used on other followers of SB by him - and not least in the most striking TV interview of the victim known as 'Sam Young'  (in the documentary 'Seduced' which is ready to be released on the international scene, firstly in Australia).

Whether or not one agrees with the Christian view that Kim expresses (as to how salvation is to be obtained), no one should overlook the fact that SB again shows that he has told an outright lie about not wishing to put a distance between himself and devotees in letting them touch his feet, and stopping that practice. Now again we have evidence that he wants them to be kissed! That he does not recognise a devotee's undoubted devotion to Mother Mary and Jesus and instead wants him to worship and surrender to him is a very telling fact indeed. It speaks volumes about the falsity of this pseudo-inity with his universalism (mostly just words, when it comes to it).

A God who has been surrounded by yea-sayers for 60 years and has - since the death of his only remaining but mild questioner and critic V.K. Narasimhan - fallen even more out of touch with the world and reality in so many respects that the covering up of his faults and ignorance is now an unspoken top priority task now undertaken by the ashram, his organisation and those connected to him. Therefore the website on which keen students actually translated in full (and unedited) what he really says in his discourses (www.internety.com) is being closed down. It is doubtless simply too revealing of his ignorance, inclarity, fumbling, continual boasting and extreme repetitiveness... to name some of the qualities of his upasana (i.e. supposed 'spiritual teachings'). The exposé has recently demonstrated some of these increasingly deranged SB ideas about science and various other matters in various critical analyses of his discourses. This has evidently 'struck home' with the propaganda merchants at Prashanthi Nilayam, who want to control his output as much as possible by stopping genuine, unedited translations.